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#91010 - 12/22/06 03:19 PM
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As far as the PDL goes, I don't know if a player could get away with being paid for an office position when he is not allowed to get paid for playing. That may be valid in Jr. hockey, but it sounds suspicious, as far as the PDL goes.
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#91012 - 12/22/06 05:47 PM
Re: 2 questions about PDL
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Well, as I recall, the purpose of the PDL is to develope(as in the name Premier Development League) players and prepare them for the action of the professional leagues of the next levels. Preparing them does not include paying them.
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#91014 - 12/22/06 10:16 PM
Re: 2 questions about PDL
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Originally posted by wjarrettc: So here's a question...is the only reason PDL can't pay their players is to preserve the NCAA eligibility of their teammates?
Can a team of NCAA PDL'ers compete against a team of PDL'ers without NCAA eligibility (i.e., getting paid).
Could BYU pay their players since they are not playing NCAA soccer? Could a team filled with only non-NCAA players pay their players?
Just curious about how this all works. As long as player has declaired himself with the US Soccer Fed. as being an amatuer then any declaired amatuer player can match up against another amatuer status player, PDL, NPSL, Adult Rec. , etc --- It all comes down to being paid...paid players can't play with or against other amatuer players...the exception being friendly matches or the US Open Cup.
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#91015 - 12/22/06 10:19 PM
Re: 2 questions about PDL
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Originally posted by Pounder: Fact-check: CIS players, according to jaydog, were paid under the table. That's Canada's version of NCAA.
Being familiar with Major Junior Hockey; those players are allowed to take scholarships at Canadian schools after Major Junior. However, the $500/month per diem (or so, depending on the team and league) they get in Junior is frowned upon by the NCAA. I know Junior A players (level below Major) don't get that per diem- or at least not the same amount- and therefore are eligible for American colleges. Supposedly, many BCHL players end up in college in America.
Curiously, there's a small number of Canadian schools asking to join the NCAA, including IIRC U. British Columbia.
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Some people have brought up PDL programs that ARE pay-to-play. Probably not all clubs (I bet Des Moines is fairly self-sustaining without that), but some.
I understand some overagers on PDL clubs are paid to coach, or sometimes to coach at camps. That might be against NCAA regs, but they probably look the other way to get along, just waiting to see if one school or another finds an advantage in pushing another level of violations. Once you sign on for any CHL team, you loose all elegability within the NCAA. I signed on with Barrie (OHL) and out went my scholarship.
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#91016 - 12/24/06 12:38 PM
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It all comes down to players can not be compensated in any way for playing soccer. It doesn't even really matter how they are registered with USSF. A college player can play on a PDL with a pro registered player (the player pass) and it will not effect their NCAA eligibility. Any one can register as a pro player, you just pay more for the restistration. The key is if there is compensation for playing. Like was previously mentioned, this includes not receiving their equipment at the end of the season for free. Getting paid for working camps falls outside of this.
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#91017 - 12/27/06 01:08 AM
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Are we back to the good old days of boots being stuffed with used $5s & $ 10s ?
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#91019 - 12/27/06 10:46 AM
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Getting paid for working camps falls outside of this. Like working a minimum wage type of position at an alumnus/booster's place of business for slightly more than minimum wage. Oh, and a company car to boot (necessary for fulfilling the duties of the job)
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