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#81707 - 05/15/03 12:47 AM
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#81708 - 05/15/03 01:08 AM
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Good call, billybob00...I agree. Can't wait til Friday night. Are there any tailgates?
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#81709 - 05/15/03 07:33 AM
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Cincy fans should stay home. Why drive two hours to watch your team lose. Blast have backs to wall and should come out flying. Wish they had a betting line in Vegas on this one. Easy money to be made.
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#81710 - 05/15/03 08:06 AM
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From what I have read on the Hwwks board, the team and club is in disarray. Much disension. If the Blast have Lynk in the keep, it should be our win. If Rogers is in, it will be a toss up depending on how he plays position. I must pick the Blast in view of its new look and Jimmies decision to go with the 3-5-2 a much better attack defense scheme than the 4-4-2. Jimmy will either have them ready to play or ready to sit. With him there is no slacking. gforever
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#81711 - 05/15/03 10:22 AM
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Mr.Senger - Would like to retract from my post. Bring all the fans you want or can. Blast need the revenue.
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#81712 - 05/15/03 11:11 AM
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From what I have read on the Hawks board, the team and club is in disarray. Much disension
Contrary to what you may belive, the play on the field is seperate form the off field distractions. The guys are playing a very attractive brand of soccer and are not letting the grousing of a few distract them. There is no disarray on the pitch. Their focus is on the field. Do not be surprised Blast fans if you end up disappointed Fri night.
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#81713 - 05/15/03 12:56 PM
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Just two words for Kim and the Indiana Blast...
CRYING TOWELS!
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#81714 - 05/15/03 03:44 PM
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#81715 - 05/15/03 05:35 PM
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Question for indy players, coaches and fans. Why did it take a 3-nil loss to the riverhawks to get some better players?
If these coaches where doing their job those players would've of been in place from the start.
It being said the riverhwaks should win this game, if they don't it won't be because the blast brought these players in.
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#81717 - 05/15/03 07:49 PM
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I still think the defense will hold the Hawks to 0. What "disention" is going on in Cincy?
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#81718 - 05/16/03 09:23 AM
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"Today is your day to step up and see what you are made of as a team. To give anything less than your best is failure. To fail to leave it all on the pitch is failing yourselves and your mates. Give as good as you get and neither ask from nor give anything to the enemy. There is no substitute for victory, only despair." According to Jimmy Greaves, Spurs member of the English team, this was a rare statement made in the English locker room by Bobby Moore, England captain before the Germany match in World Cup 66. It is most fitting for all soccer clubs anywhere regardless of their level of play or competition. It will be interesting to see if the Blast continue to improve as they have or step back to look at what they have gained. Go Blast. gforever
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#81719 - 05/16/03 09:28 AM
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Amom, normally before a Blast game, you will find a tailgate or two across the street in the parking lot of the old Victory field. It is either a tailgate party, or some fine gentlemen stoking up for the game beforehand. gforever
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#81720 - 05/16/03 09:39 AM
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the blast better stoke up...it's crunch time!
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#81721 - 05/16/03 12:07 PM
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I gotta work tonighta nd it's killing me. Damn. Obviously this is a much different team than the one that lost 3-0 in Cincitucky. I am not so keen on just throwing Beasley into the starting 11 right away, but thats just me. Anyhow I hope for a 2-1 victory tonight.
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#81723 - 05/16/03 05:24 PM
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i think that mcmillian is going to have a breadk out game tonight. he nets two and the blast win 3-0.
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#81724 - 05/16/03 10:31 PM
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#81725 - 05/16/03 10:44 PM
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#81726 - 05/16/03 11:11 PM
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Ouch...not much else for me to say.
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#81727 - 05/17/03 12:38 AM
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Registered: 04/24/01
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Originally posted by Allison A: Final 2-1 Cincinnati Hmmm, it seems someone predicted this scorline! Sorry Indy.
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#81728 - 05/17/03 07:23 AM
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A better game than the first meeting but the Blast have a long way. Some suggestions for the team. 1. When the team pushes the sides in the attack zone, send to the middle. Too much screwing around trying to beat the defenders by McMillan and Mucino. They need to send the ball into the middle or drop the ball back then go outside in. 2. Use a five man up with a middle post and use angle runs to the box with the attackers putting the defender on their outside shoulder. 3. Use more pushes down the side from the midfield using the the wings to run onto the ball then sending to the middle for followers like Beasley did to Tenoff. 4. There is too much individual play on the wings still and not enough movement to the inside when the wing beats his defender.
It is sad to see the speed the Blast have go to waste with individual moves. Give and go, angle passes in the middle or through the middle, and crosses with inside speed could make this team a nightmare to other teams. Come together and use your advantages. Play to your opponents weakness dont try to create their weaknesses. The Hawks were slower than us on the wings and on the angle runs and the Blast did not exploit them. When we did,we score or had on goal shots. I still think this team is much better than last year. gforever
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#81729 - 05/17/03 10:37 AM
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Damn. who looked good? who didn't. How much time did beasley get?
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#81730 - 05/17/03 11:55 AM
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Indy got stopped by a home town goalie they let get away.
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#81731 - 05/17/03 01:52 PM
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there is a reason indy let him go away. he sucks. he didnt have to make any saves. he has good numbers but he is not good AT ALL. did he even play at iu or is that just on his resume.
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#81732 - 05/17/03 03:40 PM
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well matt's not the best keeper and true he has the worst hands in the league, but the fact is, he is 2-0 and he did beat your blast.
Matt isn't even close to being as good as Eric(the othere keeper) but he has done a good job basically because their defense is so good. Matt doesn't have to make save after save and be that keeper who keeps you in the game.
that's it all for now, just remeber that would 2-0 in the battle with indy.
I would like give thanks to God and to number 10 from indy who gave a great through ball to Carmicheal. Thanks buddy.
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#81733 - 05/17/03 06:24 PM
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I thought ALL the boys played well last night. They will get it together eventually. Nobody knows how HARD they work at practice. Just remember when you are critizing them that you are critizing someone's son. I love all of them!!!!! I couldn't find the tailgate Friday night...let's get one organized. Who can do that?
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#81734 - 05/17/03 06:28 PM
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good point billybob00....but why don't you use capital letters?
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#81735 - 05/17/03 07:45 PM
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bluestreaksoccer yes they did win, and HORRIBLE..matt still sucks he is HORRIBLE I FOUND OUT TODAY HE NEVER PLAYED AT IU. QUTI SAYING HE PLAYED THERE. HE IS A PRACTICE PLAYER AT BEST. YOU ARE INSULTING THE ENTIRE IU TRADITION. STOP IT!
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#81736 - 05/17/03 10:04 PM
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#81737 - 05/17/03 10:47 PM
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hillbillybob... take a look at the IU soccer website. Or for that matter call coach yeagly and ask him about Matt. Seems that you morons are a little bent out of shape because your team sucks. Oh yeah, ask you blast keeper coach about him.. he trained him.
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#81738 - 05/17/03 10:52 PM
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AMOM - What are your Kim's assistant? "All the boys played well". C'mon they're frigging men playing a game for money and people are taking my money to come watch. I'm assumming your a mom of one of the players or Mrs, Morris herself. This is not Lawrence rec soccer honey where everyone tries hard and we all go out for ice cream after. This is pro and should be looked upon as such. To lose to this bunch is totally unnacceptable. Paid nine bucks to see this losing crap for three years. OKAY, all you fine Blast supporters, tell me again, "If you don't like it stop going and stop sending your negative messages on this board." Well OK I will. Now how many other people have done the same and how many others are you willing to tell the same thing to. From what I saw last night, can't be more than 400 others.
COACH - Lambasting a player in the middle of the park after the game. What a joke. Save it for private. Gforever come on with his analysis. Fine, but he misses the whole point of whats's really going on and it begins with negativity from the coach to the way the whole organization is run, which trickles down to the players. Change all the players you want, the negativity from top to bottom won't change the results.
OWNER - Walking around in jeans and T-Shirt with a pack of Camels hanging out of his back pocket. So much for Tobacco free and creating an image of professionalism. No wonder they can't get solid sponsors or coverage.
Look, like I said before the whole thing starts at the top and right now the tops at the bottom.
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#81739 - 05/17/03 11:01 PM
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Oh yeah, BillbobOO, I'd take the OO out. Ask Gforever what it means in Europe.
As for the IU keeper, stop being a twit and understand the world does not revolve around IU soccer and that just because he didn't play there does not mean he was bad, it means they had depth and there were no injuries to get him a shot. He's quite good and at the least has the aspiration to make it as a pro. Bottom line is he was on the team that won and that really means a lot.
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#81740 - 05/17/03 11:50 PM
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Well, It looks like people are getting upset and personal.Let's just talk about yesterday's game. We have to say that Cincinnati was the better team (not necessarly with the best players).They were better organized,disciplined and played for each other.We can all criticised their keeper but at the end of the day he won the game because his defenders did a good job protecting him (even tough he did not get anything to do).The real surprise was to see the Blast lined up with a 4-5-1 at kick off with Mark Allen as the lone forward!We have difficulties scoring goals and we line up a center back at forward!!I would understand if we had players to play off of him,but he was out of position (we did not create anything in the first half with Mark up top but we can not blame him for that).We lost the battle in the midfield even with 5 midfielders against 4.Overall I don't think that the defenders did such a bad job (we still need to distribute better from the back) but there is no movement of the ball,people wanting that ball,people wanting to create.There is no confidence,the players look scared of making mistakes.They have to play and enjoy it! I think that it is time to go for it and assign roles to the players and ask them to stick with it (in a 3-5-2 with the option of inserting an extra attacking player behind the forwards or a defensive midfielder in front of the defense depending on the team we play against). It is not too late but the coaching staff will have to do something about it pretty soon. But that is only my opinion!
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#81741 - 05/18/03 07:36 AM
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I am not sure what Jimmy was yelling at his players about at the end of the game but I do know if he was pointing out their short comings it needs to be done. I have been to some of their practices and know they work on the very things that they do not do on a regular basis in the game. These guys are playing for money and free rent for so many months off the organization. It is a profession and if they can not play it the way the coaches want it played, they deserve to be cheweed. I have heard Jimmies tirades and they are nothing compared to what you would hear in Europe on the pitch. I know coaches there that would make Jimmy appear to be a choir boy. I do think however that you have to deal with each player as an individual and come at him according to his tempermant. One thing that might be overlooked by a frustrated following is that you have four new players on the team or intermixing into the first rotation and cohesion is not easy to obtain with that mix. The recogition of Mark Allen forward as the single attacker with little to feed off is very valid. Mark should be in the defensive scheme and not in the front. The important thing to remember is that this is like any other cold business, one day you are here, the next day you are not as witnessed by Costa, Sweet, Dolinsky, Camerena and others. It is what can you do for us lately. It does not sit well with the soccer moms and family members but the players know this coming in and should play like they want to stay. A professional translates his practices to the playing field. That is the bottom line. PRODUCTION is what the team wants from all positions. Either produce or move on. Develop thick skin or you fill in the blank. This is not a Friday night out with the family and friends to see the young men play a fun game of soccer. It is a serious business with people paying money to see wins, and the owners shelling out big bucks for them to get a winner. They do with what they have for lack of sponsors. Competitive market. Either live with it and understand it or move on to the rec leagues and the premier and national leagues to watch. This is as close as you will get to the real deal without large sponsorship. It is also not Europe and the MLS so realize that to. Before someone asks the obvious, I am in no way associated with the Blast nor am I a member of the Morris family or a close personal friend. Just someone who did this for a long time and understand what the problems are to a small degree. Keep your head up Blast and play the way the coaches want you to. Some of you are already and doing a damned fine job. Others still have to transpose practice to the pitch. gforever
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#81742 - 05/18/03 01:30 PM
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Originally posted by socrfun: ... OWNER - Walking around in jeans and T-Shirt with a pack of Camels hanging out of his back pocket. So much for Tobacco free and creating an image of professionalism...d Who are you talking about? Kim is the owner.
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#81743 - 05/18/03 02:29 PM
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socrfun, why take the 00 out of my name. i dont give a sh$$ what it means in europe. havent you realized you are in america. this is american soccer, this isnt europe. get it together
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#81744 - 05/18/03 02:31 PM
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that is funny how you think you know who everyone is. kims assistant. even if it is, why would you call them out. dont you have anything better to do. go back to europe where you and you "lads" can talk soccer
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#81745 - 05/18/03 02:36 PM
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so the blast players are in it for the pay checks and free rent. speak for yourself but i know, a lot better then you do believe me, that there are a couple of people out there busting their back sides for this team and for you to say they are out there for a pay check. you should check yourself. this is going to get turned around and they will be laughing at people like you that say they are just out there for pay checks. that is absolutley obsurd. i wish you could do what some of those players are doing so you would respect what work that really goes into it. you make me sick!
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#81746 - 05/18/03 04:37 PM
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Think we could use a little anger management classes on this site. Getting a little heated!! Lets see what takes place in the next few days. There a many out there busting their butts. Players .coaches , owners whoever whatever.... the way you guys having been chewing ....no one should even have a butt left.
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#81747 - 05/18/03 04:45 PM
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Add on- If you are a coach and you feel the need to butt chew a player or the team.... it should be done with professional tact.
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#81748 - 05/18/03 06:31 PM
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Originally posted by billybob00: that is funny how you think you know who everyone is. kims assistant... Then tell me who the head honcho is.
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#81749 - 05/18/03 08:59 PM
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Jett - Sorry, your right I'm wrong, the guy is not the owner. He just bought the club for his wife and is listed as business manager/CFO.
BillybobOO - Here's what I have to say about what I think you know. ???????????
Yes It's getting heated when people make personal comments about opposing players that just beat your team. How smart is that?
Would still love nothing more than a five game win streak. But I think we have a better chance of being awarded an MLS franchise. Please prove me wrong. I'd love it.
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#81750 - 05/18/03 10:54 PM
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this is what you think of me "know" or now. from what it seems to me, you are stupid. you makde me laugh or as you would say "you make me laf" DORK
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#81752 - 05/18/03 11:00 PM
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SOCFUN, HAVE YOU EVEN EVER PLAYED SOCCER. YOU PISS ME OFF YOU %^&*%^! CAN YOU COACH? CAN YOU TURN THIS AROUND? IF NOT, SHUT UP AND GET THE HELL OUT OF THIS MESSAGAE BOARD.
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#81753 - 05/18/03 11:09 PM
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Originally posted by billybob00: SOCFUN, HAVE YOU EVEN EVER PLAYED SOCCER. YOU PISS ME OFF YOU %^&*%^! CAN YOU COACH? CAN YOU TURN THIS AROUND? IF NOT, SHUT UP AND GET THE HELL OUT OF THIS MESSAGAE BOARD. Dude, take a chill pill. Where were you three months before the season on these boards? You show up and you just decide to hate everybody. Insight is appreciated, just try and be less spiteful while you're at it.
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#81754 - 05/19/03 07:44 AM
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I agree with Jett- billybob00-you have posted about 10 times all with negativity-you sure you want to support the Blast? Maybe check around a little.
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#81755 - 05/19/03 07:49 AM
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Sorry for getting some of you so angry. At times my spelling is not what it should be, but in this case "know" was the proper word and spelling. It just wasn't read correctly. Also, it would be impossible to articulate as well as Billybob no matter how hard I tried. But I will continue to post as I feel the need whether you all agree or not. Bless you all and have a great day.
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#81756 - 05/19/03 12:13 PM
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Originally posted by socrfun: AMOM - What are your Kim's assistant? "All the boys played well". C'mon they're frigging men playing a game for money and people are taking my money to come watch. I'm assumming your a mom of one of the players or Mrs, Morris herself. This is not Lawrence rec soccer honey where everyone tries hard and we all go out for ice cream after. This is pro and should be looked upon as such. To lose to this bunch is totally unnacceptable. Paid nine bucks to see this losing crap for three years. OKAY, all you fine Blast supporters, tell me again, "If you don't like it stop going and stop sending your negative messages on this board." Well OK I will. Now how many other people have done the same and how many others are you willing to tell the same thing to. From what I saw last night, can't be more than 400 others.
COACH - Lambasting a player in the middle of the park after the game. What a joke. Save it for private. Gforever come on with his analysis. Fine, but he misses the whole point of whats's really going on and it begins with negativity from the coach to the way the whole organization is run, which trickles down to the players. Change all the players you want, the negativity from top to bottom won't change the results.
OWNER - Walking around in jeans and T-Shirt with a pack of Camels hanging out of his back pocket. So much for Tobacco free and creating an image of professionalism. No wonder they can't get solid sponsors or coverage.
Look, like I said before the whole thing starts at the top and right now the tops at the bottom. socrfun, you are completely contradicting yourself. Your comments to amom and to coach mcdonald sound as if you have two, very different, views of this team. You demean amom's support of these "boys" and say, "C'mon they're frigging men playing a game for money and people are taking my money to come watch," and, "This is not Lawrence rec soccer honey where everyone tries hard and we all go out for ice cream after. This is pro and should be looked upon as such. To lose to this bunch is totally unnacceptable." If you truly believe this, then you should be proud that coach "lambasted" his players in public on Friday. These are supposed to be men and should be held accountable for their actions, right? How about you get your opinions straight and then you can make a decision on the Blast coaching staff. As for your comment about these men/boys playing for money and you've been spending your $9-a-game to watch this losing crap, I can say a few things. These players are not playing for money, they play this sport because they love it. I commend these players for what they are doing. They are playing soccer in the one country that looks down upon it. You make it sound like they are ungrateful for the talent and opportunity they have been given. They work hard everyday to make soccer popular in a country that thinks it takes no talent. If you are really interested in the game of soccer, suck up your lame attitude that you've been somehow disrespected by this team. Yes, you pay $9 at the gate like the rest of us. If you don't like it, no one is forcing you to come. But if you truly want to see soccer go places in the U.S., keep coming to the games, bring your kids (if you have them), and consider your $9 a donation to the future of soccer in America. Of course, you can always spend your $9 at a movie and hold your breath until you see that donation make a difference.
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#81757 - 05/19/03 12:44 PM
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Getting back to the game . . .
The goals the Blast gave up could have been avoided, but that seems to be a problem that (hopefully) can be fixed with better communication between the keeper & the backs. On the first goal Walton & Spears failed to communicate and got beat to the ball.
I think as the new guys fit in with the others the Blast will imrpove significantly. At lest I hope it does.
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#81758 - 05/19/03 12:55 PM
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I think that everybody needs to relax a bit and try to help make things better.It is true that people are entitled to their opinion.But it has to be with respect and reflect the reality.As far as the coach "lambasting" a player I would agree that it was probably not the right place to do it because it might send the wrong message (I don't know what words were used but it doesn't matter)of a coach running out of words to express his frustration.But let's be real,Cincinnati was simply the better team and it gives an incentive for the Blast to get better.I think that the key to this game was the fact that we did not match up well in the middle and that the coaches made a mistake as well to go with that 4-5-1 because it allowed their defense to distrubute as ease without any pressure and find their targets without difficulties.I think also that the effort from the players was not there (not all of them).But it seemed that they didn't react as pros because even if you don't like the system,you play it to the fullest (that is what being a pro is)and you do what your coach wants you to do!It looked like they came into the game with their heads down! But it is taking time for this hand-picked team to gel.They just need to get it together and go to El Paso this week-end and bring back a good result (mostly the open cup second leg). The pressure is on the staff to get it right because they picked all the players they wanted and it is time turn things around. As far as the organization goes,you may all have your issues with the Morrises but lets comment about the team's outings (it is more interesting than talking about Alex and Kim Morris). Let's comment about the team,players,coaches... (whatever)in a contructive way.And if things don't get better it will be time to look at the ownership and point out their shortcomings. That is it for me.
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#81759 - 05/19/03 02:17 PM
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Originally posted by billybob00: SOCFUN, HAVE YOU EVEN EVER PLAYED SOCCER. YOU PISS ME OFF YOU %^&*%^! CAN YOU COACH? CAN YOU TURN THIS AROUND? IF NOT, SHUT UP AND GET THE HELL OUT OF THIS MESSAGAE BOARD. Clean up the language ! How about trying "discussing" soccer instead of attacking. Also, there is no need to YELL in here. Dan Barnes Administrator
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#81760 - 05/19/03 02:36 PM
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Socrfun and I have had our disagreements in the past, but I agree with him on at least one point. I also get tired of paying my nine bucks to see a poor game.
I don't expect the Blast to win every game, but they should be playing a more attractive game.
My frustration makes me want to point a finger at the professionalism of the entire organization.
On the other hand, I have attended A-League games in several other cities and the Blast operations seem to be as good as any. Game day ops are better than most and recent signings would indicate that the owners have loosened the purse stings and are trying to bring in better players.
So it is either the players or the coaching staff that isn't getting the job done.
Considering all the new players, maybe it is just taking time for the team to gel. Or maybe some of the new guys have been over-rated. In either case, it ain't pretty.
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#81761 - 05/21/03 09:09 AM
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Alfred - I took a couple days off the board, as I was deeply hurt by OO calling me names and insulting me. No fault of OO as he or she probably does not understand what a sensitive person I am.
Anyway, your right in my appearing to make contradictory statements. I do feel players need to be accountable and drilled by the coach at times, but absolutely not in public, at any time. Yes Gforever is correct about some coaches methods in Europe, but those days are also coming to a quick close as players of today are quite different than those of the past. The old methods of ripping players only lead to breaking ones spirit and right now the last thing the Blast need is players spirits to be broken. I have in the past used the ripping method and found weak, short term results. All one has to do is consider how one would feel about the coach after getting ripped in public, whether justified or not.
As for the cost of a ticket and supporting the game, I agree with you also. Games are for the most part pretty well played and fun, but as any competitive supporter you eventually want to see results. Even if it is only $9, after a few years it adds up and a supporter should at some point be rewarded with some success by the organization and not just promises. People sometimes read what they want to read and disregard the rest. I have and always will wish the best for the team and and pro soccer in Indy. Being critical is normal for people that dislike losing as much as me and If Jimmy can drill a player with criticism in the middle of the park, why shouldn't people be able to do it on this board?
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#81762 - 05/21/03 09:16 AM
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Whoever talked about "anger management" is right. One thing that US soccer players and fans have to work on is the way they view the *game* (and it is a game!). In soccer, unlike in B-ball or baseball, you can completely outplay the other team and still lose simply because of a moment's bad luck. Europeans do a better (not perfect) job of understanding that. USA fans seem much more anxious for a result, be it a foul, a card, a goal, a win.
That said, the Blast were really hurting in a number of areas. Walton was toast any number of times and he doesn't seem to want the ball. He was the reason for the first Cincy goal.
The attempt to put Allen up front was interesting, because he did get to a lot of balls in the air. Unfortunately, the 5 midfielders rarely got up to the ball fast enough to help him out. In general, the midfield was the problem -- Lazo was terrible (again) and all the midfielders seemed tentative and unwilling to move the ball forward. Always moved the ball back or to the wings and the Cincy midfielders, playing like hornets (the way midfielders should play), waited until the ball went to the touch line and pinned the outside mid w/ up to 3 midfielders, generating mistakes. The midfielders simply have to play better.
Beasley was a breath of fresh air. His pace led to the lone goal off of a pass over the top. He was very active for the entire half. Messanovic kind of disappeared, except for his dreadful back pass (again, not going forward, going backward).
Still, it's just a game and they're early in the season. None of the players attacked any of the fans or video equipment after losing what was obviously a frustrating game. In fact, they lined up w/ a group of happy kids in goal for a photo. That's also part of being a professional. I was happy to pony up $9 for the opportunity to watch a hard-fought game.
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P.S. BillyJoeBob000, you couldn't be more wrong about Matt Reiswerg. He played for IU for 4 yrs. He dressed (home & away) for at least 3 yrs and was the #2 keeper last year for IU. I saw him play in at least 2 games. You may not have noticed, but keepers aren't subbed out as often as field players, thus, his lack of playing time. He is MUCH MORE a part of the IU soccer tradition than you are.
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#81763 - 05/21/03 12:32 PM
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I am new to this site...but one thing that I have read amazes me! The topic on Matt Reiswerg. I know this kid, I played against IU for 4 years (we were in-state rivals) and Reiswerg NEVER got off the bench. Honestly, I don't think he even traveled. Someone said he was the #2 keeper last year? I have no clue how that happened? I say that b/c Matt Schlake (who was a Freshman last year) is FAR better than Reiswerg. I never played against him in College (b/c he never played), but I did play against him in club ball. I am amazed that that kid is in the A league! I am even MORE amazed that he is a starting keeper! I lived with a few past IU players a few summers back, and they even said that the kid is ONLY a practice squad keeper! So, I don't know why you guys are so high up on this kid? It is either b/c you are a follower of the IU program and you (like ALL other followers think IU soccer is God and everyone else needs to bow down to them) or you really have no idea about soccer?
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#81764 - 05/21/03 12:54 PM
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dawg-
dude, you could inflate all your teams balls(sic) with that hot air. We are high on Matt becasue he did come out of the woodwork when called upon. And he has done a good job. Mistakes, sure, but he has stopped some good stuff shot at him.
So regardless (irregardless if you are from IU)of what his background is, he is in A and he is doing great. Why not get the match time and play....right, or are you one of those that likes to bench sit the second 45 because you are all tuckered out.
nuff.
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#81765 - 05/21/03 01:12 PM
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BRF- hmmm interesting! Dont be too sure about that.
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#81766 - 05/21/03 02:16 PM
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Everyone, I think that we all voiced our opinion regarding the last game against the Hawks (opinion regarding the Hawks players,our players and our coaches).Let's just put it to rest and wait for what is coming next (El Paso in the Open Cup). I think that there are some more players being brought in so it will be an intresting week-end down in Mexico (I mean El Paso).Hopefully Jimmy will be able to stop the players to go on the other side of the border for a pint! To be a little more serious,Jimmy has his back to the wall.He has to go get a result down there because now that he is bringing new players every week it has to produce.If the results don't improve soon it will mean that the cleaning house did not pay off and people will have to face their responsibilitites.It is pro sport and if you hand pick your players,staff etc. and things don't work someone has to support the consequences. Good luck in El Paso (they'll need it with the home town refereeing down there!)
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#81767 - 05/21/03 02:38 PM
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TW -
I would be playing right now, but never for an organization as cheap as the blast. How about you?
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#81768 - 05/21/03 04:27 PM
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As cheap as the Blast?? You try losing millions of dollars over 7 years. Doesn't sound cheap to me??
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#81769 - 05/21/03 04:29 PM
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#81770 - 05/21/03 10:28 PM
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Hey Dawg, you have no idea what you are talking about. I played with Reiswerg at IU. Granted his first couple of yrs he did not see much time, but he played behind Hannig and Rogers. Last yr, the coaches said there was little difference between him and Nolly, but Nolly was younger and would be there for 2 more yrs. You may be right about what your roomies said about him because he was not that good as a soph or jr. He has the best work ethic I have ever seen and made incredible strides in his 4 yrs. Where did you play against him in club? I doubt if you did. As for Schlake, he may not even be the backup this yr. Scherpennis looked very good this spring and may beat him out. Next yr Munroe will be the back up. So make sure you know what you are talking about before you put your paw in your mouth. By the way, you say that you would be playing if not for the cheapness of the blast. What's the matter.. did no one else want you?
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#81772 - 05/22/03 01:05 PM
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