Okay, who or how many are really gone? I have heard as many as 6 and as few as two? Why are they gone if they are? Who sent them? Did they break team rules, was it their attitude and if so what was said? Some times an old fashioned a-- chewing is what is needed from both sides. I said before and I will say it again, close the doors, grant everyone immunity and let everyone air it out, cuss, throw things, yell, scream, call each other the vilest names you can come up with without bringing their mothers into it. Then after the smoke, hellfire and damnation is over with, ask the most important question of all, "OKAY WE HAVE ALL SAID WHAT WE HAD TO SAY NOW WHAT CAN WE DO TO START WINNING?" Jimmy, if you read this, back off and please do as I respectfully suggest. You know they worked in the old days and may be what you need now. There are some fine people in that group and they are frustrated. Have a closed door session. It is not about your way or the highway. It is about how to get them to do what needs to be done to win so you can both be happy and civil to each other. If it comes to cutting people after the closed door, so be it. At least clear the air and have it out but with guaranteed immunity. Might just be what you and the team needs. gforever