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#78546 - 07/15/03 02:59 PM
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Registered: 06/07/03
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Loc: Indianapolis
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Well, well Alex, at least you can get on here admitting who you are unlike many in your employ. I can respect that. What I do not respect however is you pulling (if this indeed is the case) a ball-less hit and run one time post like Jimmy did a while back. If you want to present your side great, but to slag me and others and not deal with the responses would be cowardly.
Also what I do not respect is the way in which your organization, regardless who is making the decisions, has dealt with player and people management this year. I am certainly not saying that everything is being done wrong, I am not in a position to state that. But I am saying that in regards to the issues that I have addressed in my numerous inconsistent postings. If you would like to present your side of those incidents please do and we can debate them. Your associate Futbolman attempted to do that to his credit but failed miserably.
Are far as my inconsistency, what? Can I not support and root for the players on the pitch and at the same time loathe the organization of the team that they play for? Yes, I can and I see no inconsistency in that whatsoever. I have never ripped on any of the players on here. If I am indeed inconsistent, finding blatant examples as proof should be easy.
I have nothing against anyone in your organization personally although some of the things that Kim has done and said don’t allow me to view her positively in regards to the team. Bring someone in with a proper background to handle the soccer ends of things and I will applaud you for doing so. If I owned the team, I would do the same as I can admit that I am not qualified to run the soccer side of a professional team (I’m sure I’ll get that quoted somewhere soon). That does not mean however, that I can not see mistakes that are being made.
I appreciate that you find my posts amusing as that is normally the intent. I look forward to you posting again.
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#78547 - 07/15/03 03:03 PM
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Loiterer All I can do at this time is applaud that post! it was fabulous!!
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#78548 - 07/15/03 03:05 PM
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Registered: 12/17/02
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gforever, I'm not the "someone knowledgable" you're looking for, in fact, I'm not someone knowledgable, however, Sunday's game was very reminiscent of the ManU v Bayern Munich (Champions League?) Final a couple of years ago where ManU, down 2-1, scored two goals in stoppage time to win the cup.
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#78549 - 07/15/03 03:08 PM
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Registered: 05/19/03
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Originally posted by dp: Are far as my inconsistency, what? Can I not support and root for the players on the pitch and at the same time loathe the organization of the team that they play for? Yes, I can and I see no inconsistency in that whatsoever. I have never ripped on any of the players on here. If I am indeed inconsistent, finding blatant examples as proof should be easy.
Just to jump in here. I believe dp the inconsistency "heavy" was talking about is how you support the players but then do not contribute to their pay. When you go to a game and don't pay for a ticket you are not only hurting management but you are also hurting the players who look to management for pay. And where does management get the money to pay the players? Partly from ticket sales. I don't know just thought I'd point out that I can see the inconsistency in that too.
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#78550 - 07/15/03 03:09 PM
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Registered: 07/19/01
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Originally posted by indynutter: gforever, I'm not the "someone knowledgable" you're looking for, in fact, I'm not someone knowledgable Clearly, or you would've spelled knowledgeable correctly.
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#78551 - 07/15/03 03:29 PM
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Registered: 06/07/03
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Loc: Indianapolis
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loiterer, man too much time on your hands? Been keeping up with Star Trek?
Matthew, I can see your point although I don’t really agree with it. I’ve stated previously on here that I support the players and root for them but when their success help’s the owners then I don’t. If you see that as inconsistency then fine. The players are going to be paid regardless (at least we are better than Cincy in that regard) if I’m there or if I paid for my ticket or not. The reality is that one $9 ticket doesn’t mean squat anyway. Even if I supported the Morris’s 100% I wouldn’t have paid for the tickets as I was offered them free from a couple of different sources. I like the lads, I just don’t like the organization. What would you suggest that I do then to be consistent? Stay home? That doesn’t help anyone.
vfbstgt, zinger!!
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#78552 - 07/15/03 03:52 PM
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Registered: 06/06/03
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Heavy I have said numerous times on the board and I will say it again! I am new to soccer and have to say I rather enjoy it! Do I know a whole hell of a lot about the game NO! Can I speak of plays and tactical maneuvers and such HELL NO! I am learning and am glad to have been introduced to the game by two very good friends! To Branko and Dp's Credit they are standing up to something they feel strongly about as am I. I know how things have been handled within the organization and how good people have been treated (like common trash) If you think that by us speaking out against such things I am one of the organization bashing cronies well so be it!! You know the truth in all matters and I guess we are just a bunch of misinformed bumpkins who know nothing!!! Does not matter that we know some off these guys on a personal level have built a friendship and trust with them and tend to believe what they tell us and see what is happening with them. Sorry but I cannot believe that Kim has an ounce of business savvy or people skills! People constantly tell me man you are an awesome cook you should open a restaurant! Ok fine I can cook but if I attempted to open a restaurant I would go belly up inside a month because I know nothing about running one! For the love of God hire someone who knows how to manage a professional team and let her take her pictures be present and work the ownership angle to gain sponsorship. The players are all great guys and I wish them the best but man to work and not know how the chips are gonna fall would be too risky a venture for me!!
"It's not that the Irish are cynical. It's rather that they have a wonderful lack of respect for everything and everybody."
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#78554 - 07/15/03 04:00 PM
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Registered: 06/07/03
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Originally posted by germanyforever: No DP I have not had enough. I am tired of the same old same old. Gforever, that's what I meant, fed up with the continued mistakes on the pitch. How's the trip? The only thing that I can say is that this teams really lacks confidence which of course works greatly against them. Also, I dont think the errors are due to the lack of effort across the board. I think everyone because of everything involved with this season and with nothing left to play for except pride loses focus occasionally and some of them have been unlucky enough to get burned at that time. I cant say they didnt play hard, a can do attitude was not there and that cost them. I think the 2 late goals were due to them sitting back hoping for a draw. How often does that work? I HATE when any team sits back protecting a 1 goal lead or hoping for draw. It may be a valid tactic on occasion but it is painful to watch. Then in OT they were gutted giving up the equalizer and Pittsburgh was up because of the equalizer and because their coach was sent off. It was a forgone conclusion really, but then again, so is the season.
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#78555 - 07/15/03 04:07 PM
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Registered: 06/07/03
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Loc: Indianapolis
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'ello Love!! (in my crappy British accent) I'm just verbose and have diarrhea of the mouth on occasion!
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