I'm curious as to why the Swann issue was closed after vfbstgt's reply? Ted - I won't reply at length to you retort. Dork. And Indy man - Doc did take a look at his ankle and mentioned that it was worse now than we he arrived. During his initial physical Doc advised him not to play - as did the coaching staff at DC (yes both Ray and JT), not to mention the trainers at Bloomington. They told him he might want to get the suregry done at that time. He signed and played anyway. As far as the insurance issues; the continued pay and the workmans comp issues - I can only say that my inside information is VERY reliable and NOT from a front office guy who works for the company and wants what they want posted in a reply. Funnyhow the thread was closed right after that. And yes I know the history and have spoken to John almost daily. But thanks for your updates.

I didnt see that before Branko. What's the deal Kevin? I think you owe us at least that. You shutting that topic down doesnt look real good and I havent seen it happen on here before.

Branko, I've been where you are. Keep up the pressure and state the facts as you know them. They need to know that the way they treat people can not be hidden and swept under the rug. The offical line is always going to be positive but I've had situations where I knew the facts first hand and they were represented differently on here. Maybe that is why he was censored and has never been seen again on here...with the same tag at least!

I closed the topic because I thought the discussion wasn't going anywhere. Sorry, I apologize unreservedly.

I opened the topic back up. Please continue http://www.usldiscussions.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=6;t=000309

Thank you Kevin, again, top man!

I just read the Blast home site and cannot believe my eyes. We give up two goals in five minutes after giving up 1 in 88. Who screwed up goalie or defenders How can you give up two goals in five minutes if you are doing your job. No damned excuses. I am sick of excuses. Excuses are a disease just like losing. How can you give up ONE GOAL in 88 and TWO IN FIVE. Makes no damned sense. Kick me off the board. I am sick of this crap. Happened against a team we lost 3-2 two only the OT goal was quicker than that I think. No sense in it. Has to stop. The game is for 90 to a 100 minutes depending on stoppage time. A player should come ready to play for that length of time all out no holds barred. To give up that many goals in that little time means players should sit or heads should roll. No if ands or buts. That is not defense, that is U-10 ball and at the rec level at best. We used to play for 120 minutes and not lose 3-2 with two overtimes. We made up our minds if we got a lead that there would be hell to pay before we gave it back to a tie and we damned sure were not about to lose. Until the Blast get that mentality, it aint going to happen. Look at the team schedule on the home page, full schedule and look at the number of games they have lost by one. It is stupid and appalling. It is not having the testicles to step up and get it done. If we cannot score, hire those who can or play those who think they can. If we cannot defend, try someone else who can. It is getting damned old and quickly. No team should lose this many close games in a shortened season. No excuse for it. I still support this teama but want to see the whole team show up for the whole duration of the game. 2 goals in five mintues is disgusting and the team should needs an overhaul. I get sick of hearing "well we came close again." The refrain of losers. gforever

Gforever, you've had enough I think? I had some blocked views on some of the scores as I was sitting in the front row and I was not exactly there taking notes for a match report. Saying that, the first 2 goals were scrambles in front of the net, one off a corner. So those 2 are impossible for me to place blame as they were both very hard to see everything going on. On the third goal someone was torched but I can say exactly who. The player who put in tbe beautiful cross to Dolinsky was on the right and not really challenged so Pickup may be blame, not sure. Also, Paul was on the left so Allen may be responsible. I do remember though that Dolinsky was marked AFTER he controled the cross he just got off a quick, rocket shot.

Branko: since you talk with Swann daily, is it true he has a family to support? Seems the organization owes them something!

No DP I have not had enough. I am tired of the same old same old. We had a bothched corner in one other game this year, North end of the field East to West kick someone for us misplayed it and the other team scored. It sounds as if we had another one this game. Simple rule of the game stay between the player and the goal. Not a rocket concept. If there was no pressure on the crosser to Dolinsky why not. If the ball went to the weakside where was the weakside defense? Did the ball go into the near post upper corner. If so where was the keeper on the cross? You move with the ball in the air. If the ball was put in the near upper corner, the keeper should have been there since it was said the kicker was just inside the 18. If the defender was off his right foot the logical shot has to be to the near corner. Where was the goalie? Should have been there. Any cross should be headed out. Or pushed out with the foot. No one should ever have a ground shot on a cross if everyone is marked a header is the only one that should be given up. No DP I am not fed up. I just want someone knowledgeable to tell me how you can play 88 minutes give up one goal then play five and give up two. What was the defense doing on those two goals? Apparently not a lot. I can tell you that the films should tell you who did not do what and the coach should tell you what would be coming next. If it was the keepers failure to move with the play, put in another keeper. If the defenders blew coverage, sit them down. This has happened all season in the back regardless who has been back there. I said Femia played one game where I said he should have had a big target on his chest there were so many shots taken from just outside the 18. Now it appears we are back to blowing corners. It is frustrating football to watch from professional players. Play well for 88 minutes then watch the game you worked your *** off to win go out the door on basics. No excuse for it. Now the question is what is Big Mike going to do? Will be interesting to see. Wish I could be there for the 18th but I will be there for the 26th. Hey Alex, thanks for shirt, I am wearing now. Are your game films open for scrutiny to the public. If you said no I would certainly understand. Thanks for the shirt and for your support for the team. I do have a limited knowledge of what you have done to keep this team here and a fair idea of how much you do support this team and their efforts. I hope you can get Piette if he is still available. Would really soliday our defense and what a player. Have a great one all. gforever

It's a conspiracy!

Danko's spy, passing microfilm under cover of night, reliably informs his cell-leader of the dark alliance between the gigantic and pervasive Blast Corporation and the insidious Worker's Comp Insurance to avoid disclosure of the staggering charges incurred in rebuilding the android's damaged ankle.

Danko, using a pseudonym to avoid discovery and summary execution, valiantly discloses the whole sordid truth to a dumfounded public.
Alex Morris, obviously a toady for his corporate masters (Elvis and other Freemasons), comes forward to try and spin the undeniable truth. Never acknowledging that the player in question is an artificial life form, Morris tries to shore up the entire crumbling construct using nothing more than 4 dimensional "facts" and "logic". He is discredited by Danko's superior command of hearsay and inuendo.

The CIA, which in fact operates the Blast as a cover, and which in turn is controlled by Venusians, begins to monitor this forum, correctly realizing that the greatest minds of a generation congregate here to parse and analzye the cosmic significance of boys kicking a ball around on the grass.

All hail the military industrial complex.

Well, well Alex, at least you can get on here admitting who you are unlike many in your employ. I can respect that. What I do not respect however is you pulling (if this indeed is the case) a ball-less hit and run one time post like Jimmy did a while back. If you want to present your side great, but to slag me and others and not deal with the responses would be cowardly.

Also what I do not respect is the way in which your organization, regardless who is making the decisions, has dealt with player and people management this year. I am certainly not saying that everything is being done wrong, I am not in a position to state that. But I am saying that in regards to the issues that I have addressed in my numerous inconsistent postings. If you would like to present your side of those incidents please do and we can debate them. Your associate Futbolman attempted to do that to his credit but failed miserably.

Are far as my inconsistency, what? Can I not support and root for the players on the pitch and at the same time loathe the organization of the team that they play for? Yes, I can and I see no inconsistency in that whatsoever. I have never ripped on any of the players on here. If I am indeed inconsistent, finding blatant examples as proof should be easy.

I have nothing against anyone in your organization personally although some of the things that Kim has done and said don’t allow me to view her positively in regards to the team. Bring someone in with a proper background to handle the soccer ends of things and I will applaud you for doing so. If I owned the team, I would do the same as I can admit that I am not qualified to run the soccer side of a professional team (I’m sure I’ll get that quoted somewhere soon). That does not mean however, that I can not see mistakes that are being made.

I appreciate that you find my posts amusing as that is normally the intent. I look forward to you posting again.

Loiterer All I can do at this time is applaud that post! it was fabulous!!

gforever, I'm not the "someone knowledgable" you're looking for, in fact, I'm not someone knowledgable, however, Sunday's game was very reminiscent of the ManU v Bayern Munich (Champions League?) Final a couple of years ago where ManU, down 2-1, scored two goals in stoppage time to win the cup.

Just to jump in here. I believe dp the inconsistency "heavy" was talking about is how you support the players but then do not contribute to their pay. When you go to a game and don't pay for a ticket you are not only hurting management but you are also hurting the players who look to management for pay. And where does management get the money to pay the players? Partly from ticket sales. I don't know just thought I'd point out that I can see the inconsistency in that too.

Clearly, or you would've spelled knowledgeable correctly.

loiterer, man too much time on your hands? Been keeping up with Star Trek?

Matthew, I can see your point although I don’t really agree with it. I’ve stated previously on here that I support the players and root for them but when their success help’s the owners then I don’t. If you see that as inconsistency then fine. The players are going to be paid regardless (at least we are better than Cincy in that regard) if I’m there or if I paid for my ticket or not. The reality is that one $9 ticket doesn’t mean squat anyway. Even if I supported the Morris’s 100% I wouldn’t have paid for the tickets as I was offered them free from a couple of different sources. I like the lads, I just don’t like the organization. What would you suggest that I do then to be consistent? Stay home? That doesn’t help anyone.

vfbstgt, zinger!!

Heavy I have said numerous times on the board and I will say it again! I am new to soccer and have to say I rather enjoy it! Do I know a whole hell of a lot about the game NO! Can I speak of plays and tactical maneuvers and such HELL NO! I am learning and am glad to have been introduced to the game by two very good friends! To Branko and Dp's Credit they are standing up to something they feel strongly about as am I. I know how things have been handled within the organization and how good people have been treated (like common trash) If you think that by us speaking out against such things I am one of the organization bashing cronies well so be it!! You know the truth in all matters and I guess we are just a bunch of misinformed bumpkins who know nothing!!! Does not matter that we know some off these guys on a personal level have built a friendship and trust with them and tend to believe what they tell us and see what is happening with them. Sorry but I cannot believe that Kim has an ounce of business savvy or people skills! People constantly tell me man you are an awesome cook you should open a restaurant! Ok fine I can cook but if I attempted to open a restaurant I would go belly up inside a month because I know nothing about running one! For the love of God hire someone who knows how to manage a professional team and let her take her pictures be present and work the ownership angle to gain sponsorship. The players are all great guys and I wish them the best but man to work and not know how the chips are gonna fall would be too risky a venture for me!!


"It's not that the Irish are cynical. It's rather that they have a wonderful lack of respect for everything and everybody."

GForever and DP your post on here have been fantastic. But don't you two get tried of writing that much all the time? I wish that the Blast would win some games very tried of hearing or watching them lose.

Gforever, that's what I meant, fed up with the continued mistakes on the pitch. How's the trip?

The only thing that I can say is that this teams really lacks confidence which of course works greatly against them. Also, I dont think the errors are due to the lack of effort across the board. I think everyone because of everything involved with this season and with nothing left to play for except pride loses focus occasionally and some of them have been unlucky enough to get burned at that time. I cant say they didnt play hard, a can do attitude was not there and that cost them.

I think the 2 late goals were due to them sitting back hoping for a draw. How often does that work? I HATE when any team sits back protecting a 1 goal lead or hoping for draw. It may be a valid tactic on occasion but it is painful to watch. Then in OT they were gutted giving up the equalizer and Pittsburgh was up because of the equalizer and because their coach was sent off. It was a forgone conclusion really, but then again, so is the season.

'ello Love!! (in my crappy British accent) I'm just verbose and have diarrhea of the mouth on occasion!

MAN THATS GOT TO LEAVE A BAD TASTE IN YOUR MOUTH!!!

Yea, about the same as the results so far this season.

Alex,

Thank you for taking the time to come onto this board and clarify the situation regarding John Swann...... isn't that what I have been asking you (the Blast) to do all along.... with one message you informed us of the facts of the matter and discouraged any further discussion on the topic.

without the correct information, of course, we are going to jump to the wrong conclusions, however, some of the topics that have been posted on this board have been true, and there has not been an acceptance or denial from the Blast.

You have decided on this one occasion to post a message on the Board in denial of an accusation made against the Blast. What I (and other Blast fans) would have appreciated is if you or the organization had answered some of the earlier questions posted on the Board.

Throughout life and in business we are all asked questions that we would rather not have to answer (ask Bill Clinton) but occasionally you have to stand up and be counted.

Organization bashing cronies (collectively) we might be but we are fans and rightly, or wrongly we are entitled to our opinions.

Will continue to stir the pot, and I am always on the look out for new material.

I don't think I can stand to watch other game. I have better thing to do with my time then watch the Blast lose. Maybe when they start to win and treat all the players with respect then maybe I will come and watch the game. Just like Irisrover I don't know much about football. But I do know they need new management or hire someone who knows about football. Even I know you don't keep cutting people mid season and think you are going to win. That just does not sound like a very good team to me. For the guys who are left good luck with the rest of your season.

I shall dedicate wankers pub to the memory of those fallen players who were cut down mid season! Its motto shall read "Wankers pub a place where no bloody intern will rat your arse out where you can get $hit faced and not worry about losing your job!!" Standing pub rule no peeing in the pool! or on the draught tap!

Irishrover I think that is very nice of you to do that for the guys who where stabbed in the back.

My trip is fine. Saw my niece for the first time. I am an Uncle for the first time and can't even down a beer to celebrate. What a bummer. I would rather be back watching the guys play. I want to see this player Pickup and see how good he is. Has he played yet. He is a Limey I hear and they can play the game almost as good as we Gerries. Now that should start a thread. LOL Seriously, I have heard he is/was a fine player. Has Reiswerg had a chance at the nets yet? I hope we keep them both if there is a team next year. I would love to win the lottery and be a silent partner with Alex. I am sure he could send his kid(s) to any college in America with what he has dropped so far. I really applaud him for hanging in. The guys really have talent. Each game is a new game and should be approached that way. This last game should be filed in the trash can and next game just come out smoking for 90-100 minutes. No loss of focus, no play for the tie, no do you think we can win this one. Just go out and kick some BOOOOOOTY for 90 minutes. Play 90 minutes of offense and defense. Errors of omission are much better than errors of commission. Time to adopt the three principals of German football, contain, breakdown, and destroy your enemy. Blut und Ehre, Wer sind Weider Da. Bood and honour, we are back. find, overwhelm, destroy. Great football principals to live buy. gforever

No disrespect here Gforever, but why would you want to be a partner at all much less a silent one with the head of an organization that has royaly fudged up soccer operations this year at least?

I can respect that he has put up and his own money in this deal but he is the owner and that is what an owner does. He may not have lost any money(if he indeed is) if he would've hired a qualified person to run soccer operations and not leave it to an unqualified soccer mom to keep her out of his hair. Why are we assuming that they are losing money anyway? Is that the case? If it is maybe someone else should run the business operations as well.

I'm not going along with the arguement that he has poored millions into this club and lost substantial amounts over the years due to chance and factors out of his control. I dont buy the "He keeps investing and putting out a quaility product but this is just a terrible market" line. If this side could string even 2 winning seasons together things would start to change on the business front. No one, especially advertisers, wants to be associated with a loser, and that is what this team has been for the vast majority of its history.

If he is losing and has lost money then it's his own fault plain and simple. I refuse to believe that he or any other owner is some benevolent millionare that loves Indy and soccer so much that he is losing hundreds of thousands of dollars yearly just so that we can have a soccer team here. His losses (if any) are his fault plain and simple. If this is a money pit, a wise business man will cut his losses and sell or shut down the operation. I do not want that to happen but I also am not going to cut him loads of slack assuming he is knowingly running at a loss for our benefit.

I appreciate your reply Alex. First of all this is certainly slagging:

Now I don’t have a problem with that, just if you had choosen to do it then not came back. Also, I do not think that I am inconsistent, (see my conversation w/matthew), me “admitting” that was of course sarcasm that I deal in in large volumes. I again like that I can bring humor to you and others even when they disagree with me.

As far as the personnel issue I understand your position but I have also seen correspondence directly from Kim that was surprisingly specific. I was actually shocked at the amount of detail that she went into in certain cases.

In the normal course of my life I normally follow the idea in your quote (which I now see that you edited-it was a good quote, you should've left it). I can provide another saying though that describes my position somewhat: “Where there’s smoke there’s fire.” There are way too many similar themed incidents not to suggest a pattern of action. And that doesn’t even take into account that I have first hand knowledge about a few of these things. I have never come on here and post negative comments based on rumor.

However being Irish (both grandparents on my mothers side and one on my fathers) I am entitled to pretend that I know the truth in all matters (at least once in awhile).


I can not argue with that!! Appreciate your candor

DP I would love to be a silent partner but that would be dependent on the lottery. Need I say more. Like that is going to happen. I think the more important issue is to find out, with all this talent, the Blast cannot win then find out what can be done to insure they do. Even in the sixties we studied films and it become very apparent who was not doing their jobs and who was. The cures were swift and deliberate. Again, play those who sit and see what you have for next year. Let the team see the films if you haven't already. It should become painfully apparent what is wrong and what should be done. As Tscarvalik the great Bayern coach used to say, "When if comes to reality, you are responsible for the outcome of the game" For those of you who miss the meaning of that, football is played by all the players and when one does not do their job, all the players suffer together for the mistakes of a few. Ugly but reality. The final resolution is can you eliminate the errors or the those who commit them? The success of a team depends on the decision made. Thanks again Alex and hope the team will be back next year. As for why I would want to do it, if you have to ask the question DP you don't love the game nearly as much as I think you do. Those who can see success, want to help it along and if they can, take an active part in it if they are able. Unfortunately, I do not have those resources. If I did, I would own this group outright and go from there. gforever

Alex,

Regardless of our definition of “slag,” I don’t have a problem with anyone on here doing it when warranted. I would like to see your definition though just to satisfy my curiosity.

Some of the correspondence WAS directed to me and some of it wasn’t. Regardless, my point is that there are examples of correspondence from your organization that is more specific than it really should be even if that is not the case on here. Correct, none of it was publicized or promoted but anything like that can and will get around. Debating that issue was not my point though. I understand that your hands are tied somewhat on here and you really can’t say exactly what you would like to.

Where does what leave me? You lost me on that one. I’m done with the quotes. Why did you edit out your first one?

Again, I really do appreciate your posting on here even though we are not in agreement on several issues. You are correct to get on here and defend your organization and your positions just as I am right to criticize them when I deem it necessary. I hope to continue our debate in the future.

Gforever, I certainly understand why you would want to be involved with your local club, who wouldn’t?

I guess that our difference in opinion is in seeing success. I just do not believe based on past and current performances that this ownership can ever deliver success. If policies and procedures don’t change, they will never be successful. You just cant run any facet of the organization in the absence of honor and loyalty. That was my point. I would love as well to be involved but I would not invest my money (if I had any) with an organization with this track record without exerting considerable influence upon it. On second thought, I would not invest any money in this organization at all with the current ownership in place.

On that point Gforever, we are certainly on the same page.

Comedy.

Who is Alex?

I won't wink at you WoeJoy but that is almost as funny as bellasoccerfan asking who Kim is.

I'll tell you who Bella is! Ask Germanyforever how many alias he has on this board. "Bella"=Gforever. Wouldn't have thunk it would you have smarty pants DP.

whoo hoo!

I dont know for a fact but I will have to disagree with you on that smarty pants Metzer. I doubt your in a position to prove that either.

DP: STILL NO KIM HERE
METZER: NO GFOREVER HERE- HE IS A FRICKIN FOOL

Many thanks for your kinds words Pops. You are evidently someone with a grudge on an axe to grind and I can remember nothing I have done to offend you so your words are just that, words. As for alias, I have a few just like others on this board but they are all in keeping with the fun on the board. I want to wish the team well for tomorrow night and hope they can finally get over the hump. If not some need to give up A League if they cannot put losses behind them and play each game one at a time. Part of the game. I know they aren't playing it for the money so if they have no pride left, then they should get out of the sport. No offense intended, just a reality of the game. gforever

I am a bit confused not being able to see your side but can someone tell me what seems to be their problem? I have read the schedule and results of the season and they seem to lose a lot of matches by 1 or two yet everyone says they have so much talent. How do you lose so many games with so much talent? Not trying to be cheeky here mates but it would seem that if one has talent they win more than they lose. The Blast are a bit beyond even coming close in that area it would seem. I should think that there would be more of a concentration on why the team cannot win. As far as personal attacks on board mates, seems a bit juvenile as you have never seen one another and have no idea of each others past except what is posted. All of you seem knowledgeable on the site as far as footie knowledge so personal attacks would seem to be self-defeating at this juncture. How good are the side the Blast are playing this weekend and do they stand a wager of winning? Hope the team gets over this run of misfortune and steps up the game. I do agree that if one is to play professionally, one needs to step up and deliver as a team, not individuals. I am most perplexed as to how a team can play so well for the better part of a game then fall apart in such a short period of time. Rarely happens in the EPL but I suppose it can happen anywhere. It apparently happens a lot to the Blast which makes for some very frustrating football. Well best wishes to the team and shall drop back from time to time to see how you fair. Give my regards to
Schultzy as a Pompeii man needs all the help he can get although they are back in with the big lads again and deservedly so with their current side. Hope they can stay in the table and bring a bit of excitement. Gets borish watching the same sides play for the championship year after year and just when it appears someone new is going to ascend to the top of the table, they fold like an old newspaper. Best to you all and to the Blast directors for continuing their support. dabby

GMan/Alias Dabby,

Nothing personal & no axe to grind.....Just my personal opinion! Just get tired of reading your play by play on some of the games and even games u don't attend it's like reading a short novel at times! You are always criticizing the players then at the end of your novel you tell them best of luck make up your mind???? As far as the players...I don't know of any Athlete that goes out in a game to LOOSE! and your right some are not playing for the money they are playing for the love of the game and REALLY WANT TO WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!AND GIVE 150% EFFORT

First of all Pops I suggest you get your head our to your arse. I think you are a player and if not a fan of a player. I have never done a play by play of any game I have not attended. Secondly if only two thirds of the team was giving a 150 percent of their effort this team would have won a hell of a lot more than they have so far. I suggest the old fashioned remedy if you are a player and even if you arent is simple. Have a closed team meeting and point fingers. Players know who is and who isnt producing. The second remedy is an old fashioned arse whipping session to get the air cleared. Since I have no desire to get booted from the site I cannot write in words what I really think but would be glad to share if anyone has the balls and courage to listen to the truth. I have been on both sides as a player of winning and losting. I can tell what causes both and I can tell you you have a winning side in the Blast. Why they arent winning is anyones guess. I will be at the game tonight so if you want to step up and introduce yourself and share what you think is wrong feel free. I have my own ideas. If you know the players and they telll you each is giving a 100 or more percent someone is lieing his *** off to you and that should be apparent. Any team with this talent that gives up 2 goals in five minutes someone is screwing up big time. That person or persons needs to collect splinters or have the other nine or ten kick *** to make sure it doesnt happen again. Now if you know soccer as well as you think the solutions should be failry simple NO?. Otherwise we get treated to more of the same and I buy my tickets so that gives me the right just as you have a right to criticise. I will be glad to listen to your side in person if you chose to share. If not, welcome to the real world. gforever