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#286211 - 12/21/12 02:44 PM Re: Portland Thorns/Crest Survey [Re: Minnesota NiceFC]
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I agree. I wasn't offended. Just saying, i didn't win. But a run of fan based posters made their way around town, that would be pretty sweet. Don't some call that grassroots somethin'or'nother?

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#286212 - 12/21/12 03:02 PM Re: Portland Thorns/Crest Survey [Re: HooligansFC]
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I call it punk rock.
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#286213 - 12/21/12 04:41 PM Re: Portland Thorns/Crest Survey [Re: HooligansFC]
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Originally Posted By: HooligansFC
I agree. I wasn't offended. Just saying, i didn't win. But a run of fan based posters made their way around town, that would be pretty sweet. Don't some call that grassroots somethin'or'nother?
THIS WILL HAPPEN. We're going to have money in the preseason this year, so if you're inspired start designing [censored].

Anything Portland can do, we can do while holding down jobs.
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#286215 - 12/21/12 05:19 PM Re: Portland Thorns/Crest Survey [Re: hairygrump]
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Also for real, Diskin isn't that great (sorry I'm not sorry)


Edited by pfutz (12/21/12 05:19 PM)

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#286216 - 12/21/12 08:14 PM Re: Portland Thorns/Crest Survey [Re: pfutz]
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Pfutz. PROVE IT.
I want to use something like this to start drawing in more artists.
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#286222 - 12/22/12 06:30 AM Re: Portland Thorns/Crest Survey [Re: Minnesota NiceFC]
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Originally Posted By: Minnesota NiceFC
Diskin's stuff is good because it is his own and it is for the fans, not the team.


I respectfully disagree to a point. Yes, he is inspired because it's his team, but he also just plain gets design. That magic sprinkle dust that makes him a good designer doesn't just happen because he is a fan. As well, he did design the new Thorns crest for the Timbers which would in a sense disprove your theory. The guy is just plain good no matter what he does. Not that I don't understand the delineation between club and supporters. I think it's important for both.


Edited by bq (12/22/12 06:33 AM)
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#286226 - 12/22/12 07:34 AM Re: Portland Thorns/Crest Survey [Re: bq]
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Originally Posted By: bq
Originally Posted By: Minnesota NiceFC
Diskin's stuff is good because it is his own and it is for the fans, not the team.


I respectfully disagree to a point. Yes, he is inspired because it's his team, but he also just plain gets design. That magic sprinkle dust that makes him a good designer doesn't just happen because he is a fan. As well, he did design the new Thorns crest for the Timbers which would in a sense disprove your theory. The guy is just plain good no matter what he does. Not that I don't understand the delineation between club and supporters. I think it's important for both.


I agree that these are just good designs. However, the ethos of the propaganda is the ethos of the Timbers Army, not the Portland Timbers. That ethos would be much different if it were funded by the team. But because it has organically grown out of fan support and DIY, it has developed a particular brand to it. If the team were paying for fake propaganda about their rivals, it would be really silly to be honest.
As for the Thorns, that doesn't have the same feel as this propaganda. It's good, but it's not the same.
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#286230 - 12/22/12 08:14 AM Re: Portland Thorns/Crest Survey [Re: Minnesota NiceFC]
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"If the team were paying for fake propaganda about their rivals, it would be really silly to be honest."

Totally agree with you on this. That organic nature is what sells it and what makes supporters able to sell to their peers because it is not a sales job but a personal endorsement. Both the corporate sales job but also the organic word of mouth endorsements are vitally important to a clubs growth. Neither should be disregarded.
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#286234 - 12/22/12 09:29 AM Re: Portland Thorns/Crest Survey [Re: bq]
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I think the fake propaganda idea isn't that great. Comes off as tired and internet-photoshop-2002.

Using the conceptual principles as an base for your image (ala HooligansFC's amazing flares banner) is completely different.





Edited by c0ldfuse (12/22/12 09:30 AM)
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#286244 - 12/22/12 06:04 PM Re: Portland Thorns/Crest Survey [Re: c0ldfuse]
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We already have quite a few good designers among our ranks that have put out good quality things for the crew over the years.

It would be great to have more involved, however.

I always though a poster show about soccer would be a good gimmick. Kind of like ArtCrank, but soccer.
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