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#282573 - 07/18/12 01:34 PM New York Cosmos
Gene Offline
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Will a Cosmos page open up soon in the NASL Div 2 forum?

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#282574 - 07/18/12 02:32 PM Re: New York Cosmos [Re: Gene]
theAngler Offline
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Hey Gene, I asked the same question the other day. I'm guessing the admins will want to wait until the end of the 2012 season before adding a forum for the Cosmos. Not sure though.

In the meantime, this seems like as good a place as any to talk about the Cosmos.

I'll even get us rolling. I read this this morning:

http://www.bigapplesoccer.com/columns/mytwocents.php?article_id=30863

The point about making the US Open a priority is good. Especially since it would give the Cosmos a venue for (potentially) taking on MLS sides. I'm sure placing high on the table in the NASL is more pressing. The two objects aren't necessarily exclusive though.
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#282575 - 07/18/12 02:51 PM Re: New York Cosmos [Re: theAngler]
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#282595 - 07/19/12 11:19 AM Re: New York Cosmos [Re: Msilverstein47]
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Dobens' article is excellent. I appreciate that he's really looked at the pros and cons.

The only issue I have with it is that it appears Dobens (and can we assume by extension, all New Yorkers, i.e. city dwellers) doesn't rate buses as public transport. As a committed and safe beer drinker I've navigated from the Hofstra area to the LIRR and back home all on public transport. There's a bus line that runs up Hempstead Turnpike and stops at the Hempstead LIRR station. I guess it isn't convenient enough?

I admit, I'm looking at this news with Long Island-colored glasses. RB Arena takes me about 3 hours to get to. Hofstra just just under an hour. That's not a difficult decision for me to make. Even a future possible Queens stadium location would only be an hour for me.

Bring on the Long Island or Queens Cosmos. Both seem fine to me.
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#282597 - 07/19/12 01:03 PM Re: New York Cosmos [Re: theAngler]
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Hope I don't sound to pompous, but that blog written by Dobens could have been written by me. I agreed with every point he made and share every one of his concerns.

As psyched up as I am about the return of the Cosmos I'm pretty sure playing out at Hofstra would be a deal breaker for me as far as going to any games would be concerned.

I guess that's just the mindset of NYC residents. It would be well over an hour drive for me (fighting traffic all the way) plus the gas (unfortunately nowadays a concern) and the obscenity of having to pay $13 to cross the Verrazano Bridge.

Public transportation wouldn't do it for me either. There's a huge difference between, say, getting into Manhattan and hopping the subway to Queens vs getting into Manhattan, making way to Penn Station, catching the LIRR to wherever and a shuttle bus to Hofstra........again, NYC mindset I guess.

Either way let's just hope they get a new stadium built somewhere.......and fast.


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#282598 - 07/19/12 01:20 PM Re: New York Cosmos [Re: Gene]
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Quote:
) Reasonably priced tickets. As exciting as the return of the Cosmos is, the team needs to remember it is still division two aka a minor league team. As such, the level of play will likely be a shade below the play in MLS and well below the soccer you can watch on TV. As such, ticket prices should reflect that much in the way Brooklyn Cyclones and Staten Island Yankee tickets are priced below tickets for the Mets and Yankees. Anything $12 or less would be reasonable.


Excellent point brought up by Mr Smith. One thing I fear is the Cosmos catching the "How Deep Can We Reach Into Their Pockets" fever that every team in NY has caught.

I can't speak for the Cyclones, but the S.I. Yankees sure caught it this summer. My wife and I would take our kids to maybe 4 or 5 games during the season (their stadium is about a 10 minute drive from our house), but that isn't happening this year.

It's no so much the prices per se, but the constant nickel and diming that rubs us the wrong way. For example my in-laws came into town last month, so we decided to take in a game. The $144 face value of tickets cost me $180 after all the "fees". The parking lot which is normally $6 to park all day morph's up to $8 on game night and although the beer prices remained the same as last year it's being served in smaller sized cups.

Jeez, that really is a kick in the nuts and a slap in the face when you start getting your pockets picked by a Single A Rookie League team. ;>)

$12 would be right by me and I wouldn't mind paying more if the team played at Citi Field or Yankee Stadium. Just don't nickel and dime me to death.

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#282599 - 07/19/12 02:04 PM Re: New York Cosmos [Re: Gene]
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Gene, brilliantly breaking down the sense of being economically exhausted by life in the NYC area.

Just mentioning the Verrazano makes me feel poorer and quickly reminds me of how much I hate going anywhere close to New York. Heck, my depression and stree kick in just as soon as the Jersey Turpike expands from a couple of lanes to like 8 or somethings. Somewhere around the New Brunswick or Elizabeth exits I'm working on breathing techniques and making sure that I got like $24 cash close buy so that I can cross the river to get to where I'm ghoing but don't want to.

When I go up to see the Islanders play the Cosmos, I'll plan on spending the night on Long Island. Less stress and after paying a fortune to get there, I plan on trying to get the biggest bang that I can for my buck.
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#282605 - 07/19/12 03:36 PM Re: New York Cosmos [Re: Yankiboy]
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I am not convinced this is a good thing for soccer or the NASL. Can they get a new name and a new logo. All of this retro stuff depresses me, especially considering the fact that it makes me feel like I am back in the 1970s. With high unemployment, inflation creepy upward and a Democrat in the Oval Office, we have enough reminders of how bad the 1970s were.

At least get a new logo...
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#282617 - 07/20/12 12:02 AM Re: New York Cosmos [Re: Soccer Boy]
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It's not just about the logo, it's the power of the logo. Everyone here on the Island (and in New York City I presume) gets this serious look on their face when you say the magic word "Cosmos." Another other logo or name would completely miss the point. And I enjoyed the 70s just fine, so there. smile
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#282621 - 07/20/12 05:40 AM Re: New York Cosmos [Re: theAngler]
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At least update the logo. Live in the present.
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