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#255829 - 12/29/09 11:18 AM 2010 US Open Cup
whitehall l33t Offline
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So, I have been wondering.. with all of this NASL / USL / MLS debacle going on... what will happen with the Open Cup come spring?

MLS may be facing a work stoppage over the CBA

NASL still does not know if it will be accredited / no one in the general public knows much about their schedule and organization

USL-1 currently is low on teams.. i think about 4? So thats gonna make seeding them interesting...

USL-2 and PDL seem to be the only stable groups of teams for this next season.

US Amateurs... well i dont know much about them, but NPSL seems solid

So, how do you organize the brackets?

Throw all the regional teams into a hat and just randomly bracket?
Seed the opening brackets if MLS is on strike and hope its resolved by the round they would be seeded for?
Just follow the normal procedures and hope for the best?

I think its gonna get interesting... I just hope that if the Riverhounds get Rochester again we get some better refs!
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#255872 - 12/30/09 03:23 PM Re: 2010 US Open Cup [Re: whitehall l33t]
Daniel Williams Offline
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This could be the year a USL-2 team wins it all and qualifies for the CONCACAF Champions League.

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#255874 - 12/30/09 03:45 PM Re: 2010 US Open Cup [Re: Daniel Williams]
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Originally Posted By: Daniel Williams
This could be the year a USL-2 team wins it all and qualifies for the CONCACAF Champions League.


Here is my question: Is it still USL-2 if there is no USL-1? Can we have a third division with no sanctioned second division?
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#255876 - 12/30/09 06:59 PM Re: 2010 US Open Cup [Re: nathan3e]
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Unless I miss my count, I don't think USL-2 has the requisite eight teams either. Looks like six to me.

1) Charleston
2) Charlotte
3) Harrisburg
4) Pittsburgh
5) Real Madrid
6) Richmond

If my understanding is correct, Bermuda and Western Mass dropped to PDL. Crystal Palace's status is unresolved and Wilmington isn't around any more. Is that correct? So if neither D2 league is being sanctioned for 2010 due to less than eight teams, will D3 be sanctioned? I understand its for different purposes, but if they apply the rule evenly, one has to wonder.

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#255888 - 12/31/09 09:34 AM Re: 2010 US Open Cup [Re: nathan3e]
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Originally Posted By: nathan3e
Originally Posted By: Daniel Williams
This could be the year a USL-2 team wins it all and qualifies for the CONCACAF Champions League.


Here is my question: Is it still USL-2 if there is no USL-1? Can we have a third division with no sanctioned second division?


YES to both questions, been there, done that in the past~!
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#256259 - 01/13/10 02:47 PM Re: 2010 US Open Cup [Re: BUCK]
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It will be interesting to see how the US Open Cup qualifying is done this year. 9 Div 2 teams and 6? Div3 teams. Where it has been 8 and 8 will they take another MLS team (has been 8 do they take 9? or throw in all the US teams somehow), another PDL, throw the USASA or NPSL a bone with an extra participant, or will USL-2 have more teams before the season starts? It should be exciting. I look forward to them figuring it out, of course now that US Soccer is running a league they may be too busy to organize the tournament.

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#256269 - 01/13/10 06:20 PM Re: 2010 US Open Cup [Re: BUCK]
Bernie Slaven Offline
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Originally Posted By: BUCK
YES to both questions, been there, done that in the past~!


When did we have a sanctioned third division without a sanctioned second division?

We had a sanctioned second division (the APSL) when we didn't have a sanctioned first division. But tell me - when did we have a sanctioned third division without a sanctioned second division? Was there a period where what was the USISL Pro League (USISL didn't actually go outdoors until 1989) was sanctioned Division III before the APSL/A-League was sanctioned Division II?

Or are you going to go way farther back than that, to the primordial soup days, when you were in high school?

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#259668 - 04/27/10 09:24 PM Re: 2010 US Open Cup [Re: Bernie Slaven]
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I could be wrong, but this is the 1st time I can remember USLD2 teams starting the season playing regular season games that were not doubled as US Cup competitions(not sure about last season).

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#259670 - 04/27/10 11:01 PM Re: 2010 US Open Cup [Re: Pghsoccer]
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All 8 eligible D2 teams participated last season
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#259705 - 04/29/10 05:39 AM Re: 2010 US Open Cup [Re: Fred's First Fan]
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The US Open cup needs a drastic overhaul to allow ALL teams in it, not just some. Now is the time to do it.
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