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#246198 - 08/21/06 10:46 PM
Re: Here's to hoping the Piranhas actually bring in some players next year
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The girls looked strong towards the end of the season. The Chichi Nweke comment had me  . Seriously every level of play she just gets out muscled and falls to the ground. But jeez, their defenders were pretty slow, namely Wendy. Hussey didn't do bad in goal, although many games there were some close calls handling the ball. Nweke is okay, and I'd rate him about the same as Germanos. The difference was that Germanos had an all-star roster, Nweke had a fairly young roster. So maybe the comparison is about right. I still think that was grimy as hell letting Germanos go after they won it all, ay there Laura Croft. and I'd hate to see Tony as the head guy there. Find someone better and don't waste the chance. And who would be a better replacement? Don't tell me f'ing Karl Greaves or Mario Hurdle either.  What local coach out there do you think could coach this team? As far as I remember, all of the Piranhas coaches were local, like Pat McStay, Ken Johnson and Germanos. I don't see any person from outside the area coming in to coach these girls, well maybe Kevin Denson.
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#246199 - 08/21/06 10:47 PM
Re: Here's to hoping the Piranhas actually bring in some players next year
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Vyburt Silcott, didn't think of him. Not bad of a choice besides Denson.
*EDIT* But like everyone says give Tony a competitive roster and let's see how he does. I wouldn't mind seeing the ex-high schoolers back but probably on as a developmental or practice team. You could bring those players up anytime on the active roster, seeing as though the Piranhas struggled with the number of players towards the end of the season.
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#246200 - 08/22/06 09:13 AM
Re: Here's to hoping the Piranhas actually bring in some players next year
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Registered: 07/29/06
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I think it's hilarious that people on the Mariners board are calling for Hoffy's head, yet people on here support a much less qualified coach.
I've seen training sessions run by Kevin Denson, Vyburt, and Tony. Tony isn't what I'd consider to be one of the top coaches in the area. He's not exactly over-qualified.
There are just better coaches in the area. Denson, Vyburt, Greaves, Hurdle, Bowers, Dengerink, Jon Hall, Warham, Flaherty. How about someone like Jonathan Jones? USSF B, experience as an assistant at a ranked D-1 program. Certainly qualified enough to coach a semi-pro (or whatever they are) team. More qualified than Nweke, anyways. How about giving a shot to an ex-player, like Carrie Proost?
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#246201 - 08/22/06 12:09 PM
Re: Here's to hoping the Piranhas actually bring in some players next year
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Registered: 07/17/03
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There's nothing funny about losing seasons... I think it's sad that both coaches' heads are being thrown on top of the chopping block after 1 full season considering they were each dealt a group of players who don't cut the mustard (In Tony's case, physically or in Hoffy's case, mentally cause the M's seem to be burned out at the moment).
If the Laumanns wanted a top-notch coach, they'd have to pony up some nice money - something I don't think they're going to do. The Mariners are in a good situation with Hoffy in that they can afford him because I hear he makes a nice salary with Rush.
Sure, Tony's not the most credentialed coach in Piranhas history but it's not like the W-League is where it is today because of coaching. Having a solid core group of competitive players that work well together is really all you need to be successful in the W-League, not a big time coach, and if you think Tony should be thrown off the boat because his group of high school and young college players couldn't hang with the big girls, then you might as well throw Greaves off that boat as well since he was Tony's top assistant this year.
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#246202 - 08/22/06 12:12 PM
Re: Here's to hoping the Piranhas actually bring in some players next year
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For example, if you had taken away Milbrett and Sinclair from this year's W-League champion Vancouver squad, they'd probably be middle of the pack because they couldn't finish with no viable weapons up top.
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#246203 - 08/22/06 07:13 PM
Re: Here's to hoping the Piranhas actually bring in some players next year
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Jonathan Jones, what a freaking joke. He kissed @$$ just to be an ODU assistant. What a tool.
How in the hell can you say Flaherty? That's got to be one of the biggest jokes of a suggestion I've heard in my life.
I guess the Piranhas only have one high school player left since the rest are in college now. Like I said, give Nweke a chance with quality players. Honestly, the four ex-high schoolers that played regularly didn't do bad at all. The injured keeper, Masch, probably wouldn't have done bad if the defense didn't suck @$$ during the first game.
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#246205 - 08/23/06 01:57 AM
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^^ Thanks. I like to be blunt, something that a certain ex-disgruntled Mariners employee and the "clicky" Mariners board people don't like. Make sure you don't push the "Report Button" eh there cfsIIIIIII. Sure, Tony's not the most credentialed coach in Piranhas history I actually think he is third behind Bowers and Germanos, even though I don't know what John's credentials are. Yeah, more than McStay and Ken Johnson.
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#246206 - 08/23/06 04:14 AM
Re: Here's to hoping the Piranhas actually bring in some players next year
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Actually, if you spent a couple minutes looking at credentials, you'd see that all the above mentioned are more qualified than Tony. They've all coached at higher levels than Tony. Actually, even Proost has coached at the college level. Tony's resume, straight from the team's website:
Nweke, an Associate Professor of Chemistry at Norfolk State University, has a long history as both a soccer player and coach. He has played extensively in Nigeria, MD & VA., and currently plays and coaches in the areas premier men’s league. He serves as Director of Coaching for the Chesapeake Select Soccer Club, and coached over 10 years with Norfolk and Atlantic Soccer Clubs. He is a former ODP District Assistant Coach & Evaluator.
What exactly stands out here? DOC of Chesapeake? His experience with Norfolk and Atlantic? Oh, wait...it must be the men's league experience. Much more impressive than a college level.
Put a little research into your posts and your posts will seem a little less like you're just a Tony fan-boy.
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#246207 - 08/23/06 06:03 AM
Re: Here's to hoping the Piranhas actually bring in some players next year
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wow, you really have it in for Tony cmrncraz... have you ever met the guy or talked the game with him? I have done so numerous times... I think you wouldn't have such a low opinion of him otherwise.
I can assure you that JR5 and I know enough about Tony's credentials as was evidenced by our many posts on this thread but thanks for trying to make us sound like we don't know what we're talking about on the subject. I've been strongly involved in the soccer community from my playing days in youth to announcing high school, college, and professional soccer the past six years - this includes working games for three of Tony's young ones.
Do you think that maybe, just maybe, the reason why Tony's soccer resume isn't as high on the list as some other people because he likes being a chemistry prof at NSU and would prefer ringing in a healthy salary educating the youth as well as raising his children as opposed to making a couple of bones coaching high-level soccer? Everyone's gotta start somewhere when it comes to resume-building... it wasn't like Denson was highly qualified when he became Kempsville's coach in his low 20's.
As far as finding another college-level coach to coach the fish, good luck - by no means are coaches lining up to take that job. You're glorifying this position to be bigger than it really is; not to mention, it leaves little down time between the summer and the start of the college season, which I bet if you ask Bowers, would be a big reason why he stepped down in the first place.
If you are so disgusted by Tony's lack of high-level coaching experience, then you apply to become the Piranhas coach... if you're willing to work for less than what I'd imagine Tony is making, you might have a shot. Otherwise, don't waste your time trying to make it sound like I don't know what I'm talking about here - just agree to disagree and move on with it.
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